I'm leaning more towards the latter. [–]PrairieScout 7 points8 points9 points 4 months ago (0 children). I found in the very early reports it said the daughter's husband took his MIL home and was the last one to see her. Aber er muss mit offenen Augen durch die Welt gehen – und alles wissen wollen!». She was young to be retired. That may be because loved ones are in denial and/or because they don’t want law enforcement and the media to be dismissive of the case. If there is no evidence she did that, then suicide is another possibility. 23 years is a pretty big age gap technology-wise. They got engaged in 2015, but split because Johnny didn’t want to move to Los Angeles. They didn't get a computer until 1998 and my mom didn't learn how to turn it on until 2008, lol. About the only way someone in that age group would be familiar with computers is if they either worked a job that necessitated them (of which millions do not) or they enjoyed using them. I'd be curious to know if she often went on walks — or on visits to nearby stores in walking distance — without her dog. [–]blackopsbarbie 4 points5 points6 points 4 months ago (1 child). Geez, that's the way of steering public imagination by describing the missing woman merely as a 'grandmother'. Loaner? How does a homebody grandmother just vanish like that? Dr Phil included Sandra on his show in a segment about missing people, but thats the most exposure this case has gotten. Three months after her move, she disappeared. I also read those posts and it also said something about missing gold and her Dads estate of over a million dollars. [–]Girlscoutdetective 4 points5 points6 points 4 months ago (10 children). Perhaps someone was unaware that the house was sold. I’m listening now, and you’re absolutely right. Not to mention, she can be blunt about her opinions, even remarking that a fellow intern being a model would not "help with the respect thing." If sil searched after a double shift, then what time was he out looking and where were the kids? And plenty of people that age are not good enough with computers to justify having internet. If Sandra could afford to pay all cash for a house, you’d think she would have invested in a basic cell phone and/or computer. Why would you intrude on the house and property possibly tampering with evidence unless that was your objective. In der 16. Again I’m not discussing this with you any further though, [–]USS-24601 6 points7 points8 points 4 months ago (1 child). He is not a suspect. My gut tells me she didn't walk away from her life. This is ridiculous!! Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Five days into their trip, they disappeared. I don't know if the alleged missing sheet means anything or not. She called a family member to drop her off at home afterwards. It seems like police might be withholding that intentionally, not because they think he is involved directly, but maybe because he is involved indirectly. Schnell steht fest, dass es sich dabei um Mord handelt. [–]blueskies8484 12 points13 points14 points 4 months ago (1 child). I believe he was also instrumental in somehow getting the neighbor's cow up into the barn's hay loft; could swipe the wiener off your roasting stick in one daft move. [–]breckbrian 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (0 children). I mean, I don’t think saying ‘she’s a grown up, don’t leave at 10pm’ is suspicious personally. Unsere Wetterversicherung schützt Landwirtschaftsbetriebe dank einer schnellen Schadenzahlung vor den finanziellen Folgen eines wetterbedingten Ereignisses. I just got done listening to her case on The Vanished podcast, and this was brought up as a possible scenario. In one post she talked about how her young son broke down in tears in a parking lot and could not be consoled. Furthermore, not everyone goes to a university. Is he saying this elderly lady knocked off two family members? ; if she is going through some stuff, she might not know and could be anywhere--sightings and tips no matter how outlandish should be followed through until they can be ruled out. It might be a case of follow the money on this one. They can't screw this up if she was murdered. It might indicate there was more money involved than just the 240k she used to buy the house. If it isn't true I would think family who has read that would say no that's not true since she's missing. I'm just not sold it has anything to do with her disappearance. Why are people so sure everyone gives a shit about technology. Celebrate the love of family or give a thoughtful gift with one-of-kind personalized signs, rustic décor and more! Comely, busty and shapely 5'5" blonde bombshell Cherie DeVille was born on August 30, 1978 in Durham, NC. [–]lopresti85 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (0 children), Sounds like the Jeremy jourdain case 5 almost years later it’s still unsolved, [–]kgbrown2222 0 points1 point2 points 17 days ago (1 child). Jeffrey A. Shields and Deana J. Shields to Glenn A. Baumgartner, 4050 Johnson Lane May’s Lick, $410,000. The only way they could begin to clear the last person to see her is if they have proof that she made it home after Cumberland Farms, Maybe her landline records prove that she called someone Wednesday evening, after she was dropped off? Ob Sie ein Eigenheim kaufen oder Ihre bestehende Hypothek ablösen möchten – wir bieten die passende Lösung für Ihre Finanzierung. However- should be noted that she moved from the worst part of Quincy with family still in Quincy. [–]riptide81 7 points8 points9 points 4 months ago (0 children). The problem with that theory is that it takes a concerted effort and some know how to disappear of your own volition either to live a new life or just commit suicide. & other personality disorders (hope I don't get moderated for my wording choices)...SC could very well be homeless and/or panhandling if she doesn't know who she is, doesn't have any forms of relevant ID on her, etc. So horrifying. the last incoming answered call was Wed from Sandras Cousin T. While the children were still there and when they discussed making plans and Sandra was to call T back when she got home from mechanics. He also says he received panicked, paranoid voice mails from her at some point before she disappeared. If it was my family member I wouldn't want wrong information out there. Thanks for sharing! [–]Birder64 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago* (3 children), It is strange and unreal they can't find her. Things can definitely go south when there’s an inheritance involved.it sounds like this guy has serious concerns.Horrific,if any if it’s true.i wonder why she got rid of her cell phone? What happened with that?!!!! [–]OFD6714 1 point2 points3 points 18 days ago (0 children). Watch TV? What's all the fake crying about? What was the reason for her initial move, is there bad blood or bad love/loose ends (whether real or perceived?) [–]Detectruth 0 points1 point2 points 12 days ago (8 children). Say, if he had criminal friends. He was the last person to see her and he has not been cleared by LE. I would not call that "unusual" anymore than I would consider it unusual for a household to have an electric kettle in the US (17% of households do). My only thoughts are maybe a neighbor often saw when she walked the boys and took the opportunity that night, knowing she was alone. Why do you think it's so wierd that she doesn't have a cell phone if she has a landline and doesn't even have internet? I just don’t see where he had time to do something when he had the little kids with him when he dropped her at home. Despite various traces, sightings, and phone calls possibly from the missing girl, she’s never been found. With that in mind, it is very possible this was someone close to her or her family and it was the right set of circumstances to make her disappear...taking her car out of the equation is what got the ball rolling??? Martin Grubers Privatleben ist weit davon entfernt, sich zu entspannen. I guess unless if it pertains to him. I am from this town and the facet that she is still gone is heartbreaking, [–]Publius_Paterculus 8 points9 points10 points 4 months ago (19 children). Something is not adding up. Maybe T and others paid Sandra a visit. I'm sure he's told LE all of this, so make of it what you will. This murkiness is making this conversation weird. I agree that leaving to start another life would take time and effort to plan. SIL also was SO Happy for Sandra to see her happy yet could not be bothered to check in on her when no one answered and the kids were to be dropped off the next morning. I mean, maybe she threw it out because it was stained or something. According to the obit, there were four surviving offspring, including Sandra and her brother. Rendered by PID 20312 on r2-app-0be9117fc86ed84f6 at 2021-04-11 20:17:46.328516+00:00 running 4ce0720 country code: BR. Nice write-up! Crispo was a grandmother, yes, but she was also relatively young (54). I definitely think foul play, and by someone she knew. So sad, [–]Youstink1990 4 points5 points6 points 4 months ago (1 child), [–]14thCenturyHood[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 months ago (0 children). A dog who's used to greeting people at the door doesn't just stop one day. son-in-law were interviewed separately. [–]Girlscoutdetective 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (2 children). Posted on February 23, 2021 March 23, 2021 by Abby Baumgartner — 1 Comment 5-Star Farmhouse Styles. Die Verbesserung des Hochwasserschutzes erfolgt durch den Bau eines Rückhaltebeckens im Gebiet  «Moos». The last sighting is from the family member who dropped her off. I live in Hanson. Last October, her daughter said there may have been signs of a struggle in her home. I read some of the articles and there were some key questions that they did not answer. Die Mobiliar unterstützt in der Gemeinde Oberburg/BE ein Hochwasserschutzprojekt. You know. After that, they went to her house. Wir bieten Stellen in den unterschiedlichsten Bereichen. So schützen Sie Ihr Kind richtig. It is always so mind boggling and also quite scary to me when people just disappear without a trace like this. [–]Detectruth 3 points4 points5 points 1 month ago (0 children). [–]Detectruth 0 points1 point2 points 12 days ago (0 children). The son-in-law also seem to shell extreme emotion and started to cry during the podcast at a time in the story that seemed odd. Her body may actually be not far from her house at all. WHERE IS THE DOG AT THIS POINT? and join one of thousands of communities. That would be a safety thing. I think missed calls are not in question, we know Laina tried several times to reach her mother thurs and fri. the first podcast, from M. Morford, the one I believe is accurate has Tues as last outgoing, Wed as last incoming they do not state actual times. Was Cumbie within walking distance of her house- or was that before the car drop off? Now I'm confused. Somebody knows something people don't vanish without a reason. [–]bmynthi 9 points10 points11 points 4 months ago (0 children), Well, I would argue that's partially an artifact of the grouping. I don't think the police department ever did a full search of the marshland in the area. Gorgeous French babe Sara Forestier strips completely naked and bares every inch of her smoking hot body while serving wine to some lucky guy!. 3, 4. No food or water Wednesday night thru Friday and then not found excited, is not surprising. Perhaps she was very poor, but it's incredibly bizarre for someone that age to not have the Internet. The way he says every little detail especially the part when him and the kids last saw her and quoting word for word how they said goodbye granny, then he choked up. [–]breckbrian 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (4 children). I am skeptical of everyone but I especially don’t know how the SIL would have had time to kill Sandra while also working and watching the kids. O'Connor went to Stanford University when she was only 16. Cost maybe? On the other hand, the possibility of other issues which would point to foul play being withheld seems quite possible. [–]PrairieScout 40 points41 points42 points 4 months ago (18 children). I am constantly checking to see if any progress has been made or any more information has come to light but nothing has. I hope they are able to find answers someday. Maybe she crawled in to a crawl space and got stuck some where or, like you said, went for a walk and succumbed to misadventure. I also thought it was interesting that the wife and husband i.e. ), she was in a new place, maybe a neighbor was involved? Der Begriff Deutschnamibier bezeichnet die deutschstämmigen Staatsbürger der südwestafrikanischen Republik Namibia.Sie selbst bezeichnen sich zur Abgrenzung von den anderen ethnischen bzw. A sheet missing is weird and it makes me think she was wrapped in it. It has really shaken our community. Does anyone know if that's true. I wonder if she was drunk and went for a walk and stumbled into the water maybe? Dank genossenschaftlicher Verankerung sind wir in erster Linie Ihnen als Kunden verpflichtet. How did she leave Cumberland farms with no car? My mom is also in her 60s and not tech savvy. If Sandra didn't care about money, why didn't she split the fathers assets? [–]Disastrous-Piglet236 5 points6 points7 points 4 months ago (0 children). [–]Detectruth 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago* (2 children). I don’t know that just seems contradictory. Have not heard about the forensics? The way he was giving wayyyy to many details, shedding a tear when talking about how much she meant to him and his children (the grandkids part I understand but I’m sorry I’ve never met anybody so attached to their in-laws). Not to mention at the same time he talks about how calm he was even when his wife was freaking out he insisted that she waits overnight before going to check on her mom. [–]fritzimist 0 points1 point2 points 4 months ago (0 children), [–]Aleks5020 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (4 children). Other than that, no one should be cleared and no one should be saying anyone is cleared unless LE confirms. [–]scandinavianplumber 3 points4 points5 points 1 month ago (0 children). Kostenlos mit GMX FreeMail: E-Mail-Adresse, 1 GB Mail Speicher, Free SMS. Not to mention, not going over to see why no answer when you live a few miles away. The family member who had picked her up from the mechanic was waiting outside for her, they stopped there on their drive to drop her off at home. Unless someone isn't giving it up to the police. I can’t imagine the agony of just not knowing. I stand corrected. [–]googin1 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (14 children). Not to my knowledge. Why would you bring your kids over if you had a gut feeling something was wrong #1, #2 knowing you were going to work. He was adamant that he did not want a cell phone and did not want to drive a car. Tbh it seems like you just decided you believe the brother for whatever reason. First 48 hours are crucial and 48 hours past before reported! [–]Affectionate_Pie_779 5 points6 points7 points 1 month ago (22 children), I don’t know why but her son in law sounded sus in the podcast. Considering they don't know where she is I doubt anyone is fully cleared. [–]Birder64 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (1 child). [–]Itsnotthatkritikal 0 points1 point2 points 12 days ago (11 children), The brother had a motive. Also, what kind of area is it? UPDATE: Arrest Made in the 1985 Murder of Roger Dean. Not many people know about these systems but I think they should definitely do a more extensive search of this particular area I described. Her grown daughter has two young boys whom Sandra adored and spent as much time as possible with. In one instance SIL is a strong person who has a good sense when "something isn't right". It's sad for the people who love her to continue on with their life while she's missing. Beyond that, even if they did most students did not use them. Die Verbesserung des Hochwasserschutzes in Burgdorf erfolgte durch diverse Massnahmen. Same with a head injury. I honestly don't remember the statement with the grandchild saying she fell down. My retired father (77) has a TracPhone, and goes to the local library to use their computers should he want to get online, rather than pay for a smartphone or have internet access in his house. That's interesting. ", [–]PrairieScout 1 point2 points3 points 4 months ago (0 children). Dank dem anhaltenden Erfolg fliessen 2,5 Millionen Franken direkt an die Kunden in den Regionen Burgdorf, Fraubrunnen und Sumiswald zurück. The 1st podcast mentioned last outgoing was to her daughter Tues He claimed Sandra used to have a cell phone. The only reason for not calling the police and continuing to work would be if I knew my mother had a tendency to go off on overnight visits with a friend or friends without notifying me of her whereabouts in advance. Might not necessarily be someone she knew, but someone who convinced her enough that they were trustworthy. Sandra Heigl, PDF - 2/2005 ; Urlaubspostkarte Schuladresse sollte schon eingetragen sein, so dass die Kinder die Postkarte nur noch selbst gestalten können, z.B. He seems like a nut job. Seems to go along with Sandras brothers thoughts. However, Sandra's daughter and SIL both insist Sandra did not have any such habit and her only friends were her sisters and a cousin. DebunkedMurderRequestUnexplained [–]Detectruth 0 points1 point2 points 21 days ago (5 children). Walked? Do we know what was wrong with her car? [–]14thCenturyHood[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (9 children). Sandra was not spoken to after being dropped at home by her SIL. The circumstances suggest maybe something unsavoury- perhaps she let someone with malicious intent in. Unsere dezentrale Organisation bietet Stellensuchenden zudem schweizweit vielfältige Jobs und Karrierechancen. There are some inconsistencies with what was publicly known and some things that were never discussed or mentioned before so take this as you will but I think it is worth a, [–]Chance-Ad8039 2 points3 points4 points 12 days ago (3 children). She was old school. Here are more than 50 free jelly roll quilt patterns ! After her death, her widowed husband began receiving harassment from those who felt he had involvement, but as of 2021, no one has been named suspect or charged with her murder. Just because you use the internet does not mean everyone does. If she was a homebody and just barely moved there, I wouldn't think she would have issues with many there. Sandra Crispo, 54, of Hanson, Massachusetts, last made contact with her family on August 7, 2019. I understand t people that are 70, 80 even 90 have one but not everyone has one. She doesn’t use a computer, but still has an iPhone which she enjoys. I have a slight connection to the family and to my knowledge she did have some health issues. She was only 54, healthy, lived on her own, drove, and watched her grandchildren. [–]breckbrian 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children). REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 20312 on r2-app-0be9117fc86ed84f6 at 2021-04-11 20:17:46.328516+00:00 running 4ce0720 country code: BR. I think the immediate family is responsible. Die zügigen Bauarbeiten schritten gut voran, sie dauerten von Herbst bis Winter 2008. For my mom, Lorna. I had never heard of it before. Not really. Fünf Prozent mehr Prämienvolumen für die Generalagentur Burgdorf: Auch 2019 verzeichnet die Mobiliar im Raum Burgdorf ein starkes Wachstum. Again, the brother has a giant motive. I'm not sure he said. Money does funny things to people. I live in Mass and I haven't seen so much as a missing poster around. [–]Publius_Paterculus 8 points9 points10 points 4 months ago (0 children). Anlässlich der Generalversammlung der ESA ist die Botschaft «Reparieren statt ersetzen» perfekt platziert. Maria's sister had escorted her there and left the farm after a short stay. If there was a current love interest that would be a twist for sure but it is stated that she was a homebody. There is some information on other websites that points to a family disagreement over an inheritance. I don't know if he knows what he's talking about or not, but her brother seems to believe her death is somehow connected to her father's estate. The other is she walked away. [–]pmperry68 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (1 child). Daughter stated she called her mother Thursday and then Friday morning, so that would mean Laina was the last incoming call and the call to the cousin on Wed at 5:30 must have been outgoing. Who would have known SC didn't have her car on her? I also feel like, in this day and age, its going to be hard to start over with out a digital foot print of some kind, if she "ran away." Jeanette C. Ebensteiner, age 75, passed away suddenly Feb. 26, 2021, at her home in Sauk Rapids. Die Mobiliar ist Hauptsponsorin des Zoo Zürich. [–]14thCenturyHood[S] 19 points20 points21 points 4 months ago (8 children). I think the daughter is too! From the Websleuth article: " 47 Spofford Ave property in April of 2019 for $240,000. "' This brings me to my personal thoughts on this case from what I have read and what you have asked...I think it is possible this is somehow a stalking situation of some sort, I might be wrong and that would be my fault for not doing better research...I bolded my questions above and would like to know what you think as well... [–]Birder64 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago (3 children), I dont think a stalker I think it's closer to home and could be due to money. So what could have happened? Monponsett has some shady characters in that area . Malen, Schreiben, Bekleben,... und sie dann frankiert an die Schule schicken. I just listened to it yesterday. Its obvious at this point somethobg is wrong. Only that he can't be cleared at this point. I think the woman on the podcast misspoke about a 5:30 call. One would have to maintain and stay on top of the ever-evolving technology in order to be relevant, and while many "older" people have jobs that require them to at least do the basics--email, search engines, take messages, etc., she might not have been comfortable with and found computers to be intimidating. One thing that I thought was interesting was that there was the issue with siblings over the inheritance, she paid cash for her house but she didn't have a bank account? it's heartbreaking seeing the toll it has taken on that family. They would have used computers in high school. I’m doubtful, but who knows? I don’t know too much else but I believe Sandra was the recipient of some money and there were people close to her who didn’t like that. But this is a strange one and I'm open to all reasonable possibilities. [–]Publius_Paterculus 9 points10 points11 points 4 months ago (1 child). Lastly, I would expect a woman who lived on her own, drove, and watched her grandchildren to at least want a cell phone as an additional safety precaution. [–]Birder64 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (25 children). He died about 1.5 years before Sandra's disappearance. My Mom is in her 70's and has a cell phone and an iPad. Saw that and read the link. It seems unusual that Sandra did not have a cell phone — not even a flip-phone — or a computer. Have participated in searches. [–]14thCenturyHood[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (6 children), [–]YellowSea11 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (5 children). I don't know how much truth there is to it since no one has said it's not true. Rund 1000 Garagisten in Interlaken und ein interdisziplinäres Team der Mobiliar ist mittendrin. Hard disagree on that last sentence. A lot of times on these podcasts the couple will be Together in speaking on the same page. Cumbie's would not have been within walking distance of her house. The one article said the mechanic called the daughter the next day about a part the car needed so it wasn’t ready yet. Some of her personality traits as discussed by family would indicate that she might socially have some hang-ups and/or issues but that might just be b/c she is comfortable with what her routine and life is...there is nothing wrong with that.
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